What are you using them for? The 545s have more smooth high end, softer lows, and more pronounced mids. Give it a few more years and the Beta 57 will come down to $100 and there'll be a new product line. Not true. It's a black plastic on the 545's (and relatives) and metal on 57's. I wanted to come back and chime in. Just a harmless little bump as I'm curious about this too. It seems that everytime a "57" in a new product line comes out, the street price is about $70 higher than the last. So at the end of the day/thread, do you believe a SM57 is a selected 545 that is painted black? by ubertar » Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:33 pm, Post Turns out they're the newer ones, made in Mexico, but they definitely sound different than my SM57 of the same period. YouTube - The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - Everything Going To Be Alright, Paul Butterfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The "Unidyne 545" is basically an ancestor to the sm 57, the same way the sm 57 came before the Beta 57. We Don't Got No Steekin' Budjet => Info and history of Shure's SM57 along with mods? 545l is a different beast. was internally selected with a sort of jumper. Unidyne III 545 is an amazing mic for harp and vocals. I'm glad to see a thread about these older Shure mics. by atdunlap » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:34 pm, Post One of the great Top 40 Bands I remember that used to play around the Tampa Bay Area in Florida, The Split Ends, used the PE 545 exclusively as their 4 vocal mics. Unidyne III), but the ones I have (from the 60s or 70s) sound quite different from an SM57. Am I wrong here? The frequencies are "tailored" a bit differently. 5 mv of signal can be severely effected by a slightly dirty switch. I like the tab modded 57. I'd simply get a stock sm 57 and swap the trannie for a tab funkenwerk. Are you saying all those models across all those years sound extremely similar to one another? Mine also has an on/off switch. I've noticed the new ones have the transformer potted much more heavily than the Unidyne in your pic. Yeah, I don't have a current production 545 (aka. Maybe we've uncovered why people seem to prefer the older ones! The response chart (another highly dubious reference) shows a more accentuated HF boost in the upper mids than a SM57. If you're not sure why this makes such a difference then maybe you should go to Shure's website and read their educational publications. When it comes to guitar cabs, anyway, I find there are significant differences between the 545 and SM57 and a big difference between a 548 and an SM57. This would have more of effect on sound than variences in tolerance (comparing domestic to domestic, import to import). So I got the 545s today. I wonder if that can be a reason for the sonic differences? I used it to mic my snare... needless to say, I loud, clumsy, aggressive metal drummer and took the windscreen AND the diaphram clean off. Having a look at the link in this thread; It says it is selected using the cable as a brake out cable depending on how it is tapped. They've been produced continuously from 1960 up through the current production model (Shure Unidyne 545 SD) available today. It was done to remove the switch contacts from the audio path. Perhaps between the IV and the 57? They all sang and had great lead vocal and harmony sound. The Beta 57 is something else entirely. They sound a lot flatter, to my ears, and are closer to a 548 (Unidyne IV). That's right - Shure still makes the Unidyne III 545, they never stopped as far as I know - and while it is related to the SM57 in many ways, it's clearly not the same mic. I disconnected it to avoid switch contact problems. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. Some how I got my hands on one of those also. Also, the beta 57 has a more extended HF response and hotter output. Several different models of the Unidyne III / 545 have come out, mainly to accommodate all of the myriad bizarre mic cable and mic mounting standards that predated modern XLR, some offering switched operation, some not, etc. by AGCurry » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:54 pm, Post If I'm not mistaken, I believe I saw that the 548 was predecessor to the early 57's. I have a really nice Shure 545 that I was experimenting with recently on a snare drum. I was not impressed. 1964 Audio Catalog For Sound System Specialists says, Already have an account? Interesting. Later, a group that several of us formed, The Blues Bag, decided follow this same microphone motif with our band and found the 545s gave us excellent sounding vocals, especially good smooth harmonies with no use of compression whatsoever. I don't have one here for comparison... khai, yes Bob Ohlsson also has a high regard for the RE15/16 (per his past posts), along with the 635a omni dynamic. That's cool, not really what I was talking about at all, cool none the less. They had the smoothest and most professional live sound mix of any band of that day for a local group that I was exposed to. The SM57 has a voice coil made of a different > material than the 545. I wish more manufacturers were that customer centered. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Also, probably near impossible to factor in the environmental/handling extremes that mics go through (except those whose life has been in a studio.). I don't want the prices to go up but they are really some great performers. The fact that it's great to mic a lead guitar amp, a snare drum or even various horns and harmonica, is just added extra benefit. As well as the great transformerless 57. The 545 was indeed a predecessor of the SM 57, and it was in the lineup until recently. That's right - Shure still makes the Unidyne III 545, they never stopped as far as I know - and while it is related to the SM57 in many ways, it's clearly not the same mic. by moonbaseone » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:15 am, Post All of mine definitely sound extremely similar, yes. It's a transformerless 545 great on snare. When in doubt, try it anyway... it just might work. Their early 546 advertising was where the idea of "selected" came from. Its hard to tell anything about the transformer in mine as it is bathed in glue...otherwise, does it look similar to the new 57s? Above is the Shure 545. Hey there! by moonbaseone » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:02 pm, Post Plus they're silver and the 57s are black. I would definitely have to disagree with that. To give this my own test, I just scored a couple of vintage Unidyne III 545 mics for $40 out the door on eBay today, and I am eagerly awaiting them in the mail. I've been doing some research lately on this subject, and have compiled the most complete set of info I can find, but I still am wondering what else is known on this subject. Their early 546 advertising was where the idea of "selected" came from. Vocals, guitars (mostly amp'd, but sometimes acoustic), snare, kick. They've been produced continuously from 1960 up through the current production model (Shure Unidyne 545 SD) available today. The Beta 57 is a supercardioid mic, unlike the SM57 and 545. Nobody has mentioned the part of the mic that holds the cartridge. You can thank Bob Ohlsson for that "selected 545 with paint" line: A 57 is a selected 545 that's painted black. You mean the kind of "contact problem" where the "talent" turns it off, and then gives you the stare of doom because nobody can hear them? by lancebug » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:02 pm, Post Don't have any verification of that. I couldn't resist putting my two cents here since I've had a lot of experience with this particular mic. Hey there! Well I have the following Shure mics out of the Unidyne lineage. The SM57 has a voice coil made of a different material than the 545. You need an account to post a reply. Budget? Maybe we've uncovered why people seem to prefer the older ones! ...serving the creative recording community since 2001... Post All sound extremely similar. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. I've had more musical experience through the years now and have had the privilege to work with and own some of the best studio mics manufactured, but, when it comes to live sound vocals, lead or harmony, the 545 is one of my overall top choices for most voices I've had the opportunity to work with. I have absolutely no idea how that 545 (complete with switch lock)got into my collection. ↳ 5/03-2/05: Off-Topic / Off-Color / Off-the-Cuff, ↳ 5/03-2/05: Musicians Wanted/Available, ↳ 5/03-2/05: Producer/Engineer and Studio Job Listings, Difference between Shure 545 and the Sm57, Re: Difference between Shure 545 and the Sm57, https://paulrubenstein.bandcamp.com/album/one-eye-awake. Recording geeks have come up with all sorts of interesting sounding theories about the difference between the Unidyne III and the SM57, mostly attributing the sonic difference to Shure switching manufacturing from the USA to Mexico in 1985 (or 1975, depending on who your source is!) Another Shure worth mentioning is the 548. Take an old one apart and look. You can compare stats at shure's website as they have pretty detailed info for most of their discontined products as well as their current lines. I thought the ?dual impedance? I have a couple of new (circa 2013) SM57s, an SM56, and a ton of vintage 54x variants (545SD, PE54D, 546, etc).
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